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Old 10-07-2012, 01:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default If Islam is a tool for repression shouldn't it then also become a tool for resistance?

Islam means "submission" Adherents are taught to believe in the absolute will of Allah and trust in him always. Inshallah. God Willing.
This code of passivity has long been used by insider and outsider alike to dominate and oppress Muslims. Even Saudi Arabia, the State religion(a sect of Islam called Wahbaiism)indoctrinates that it is the will of Allah that the ruling elite are in power. The ruling elite that light their cigars with $100 bills, crash escalades as a sport and have the desert watered into....golf courses instead of farms.
While the rest of the country is dirt poor and never sees a dime of that oil money.
To challenge this corrupt power, mustn't people take ownership of Islam and make it their own? A religion of revolution instead of submission? If you believe Allah is against you you cannot fight. If you believe Allah is with you, you can fight anything.
So is it any wonder that since islam is used as a tool to keep people down, its used as a means to rebel also? And why do Western critics attack revolutionary islam but not oppressive islam?
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You are an idiot.
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Death to America and Israel.

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religion is always used by leadership class to keep the mass of people down
people who want to rebel invoke religion as justification
religion is the language of morality and ethics- shared values
that's what gives it so much power in politics
in Iran, before the Revolution, the Shah was the "Shi'ite King"
It was his job to uphold Islam- the Islam that accepted his rule
revolutionaries that opposed him came up with a new idea about Islam and government- and Ayatollah Khomeini was the leader of that faction
today, many Iranian Muslims say that the ruling clerics misinterpret Islam
minority groups like the Kurds, who are Muslims, never accept the doctrines of Shi'ite fundamentalism in the first place
so there is an example for the kids out there
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Grrrr your point is invalid. BACK TO THE BASEMENT.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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This is interesting, but a little simplistic. This is in fact my area of study for my doctorate, so I'll try to sketch out the way I see this as briefly as possible. Firstly, submission to God is emphatically NOT the same thing as submission to human authority. Westerners often conflate these two things, because we come from a religious culture with a strongly hierarchical church structure that claims to speak on behalf of God. Sunni Islam lacks such a rigid structure.

Secondly, religious scholars in Islam have generally withdrawn from secular politics except under the most dramatic circumstances. Islamic scholars generally hold that secular power is almost always bad, that rulers are usually corrupt and impious, and the best thing a good Muslim can do is to have as little as possible to do with them. However, God has ordained rule for human beings as a means of sustaining human existence. So revolt against a ruler is only justified when that ruler acts in such a way as to impede the believer's supreme duty towards God. This is the 'conservative' Muslim position.

There are, however, also 'radical' currents in contemporary Islam which reject this quietism, which have a somewhat messianic tint, and which aim to overthrow all impious rulers and establish a reign of righteousness. This is what you call 'revolutionary' Islam. It is no less a religion of 'submission' than the 'conservative' Islam you criticise, and I would say it is no more a religion 'owned by' the people. In fact, it is largely a religion of the rising Muslim middle-class, with very shallow roots among the poor. That is why Salafism is so strong in Saudi, a country corrupted by wealth if ever there was one. The wretched of the earth - or at least of the Muslim world - prefer the gentler, more abstract consolations of the older kind of Islam.
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You see, coming from a Muslim,

Americans like to attack Muslims maybe because they think we are not strong enough, but they cry when we beat them up.
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